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ICCT-SACC SENTINEL Podcast

Episode 2: Not Under the Threat of Bombs

In April 2026, ICCT Senior Fellow Kacper Rekawek sat down with Noemi di Segni, who led Italy's Union of Jewish Communities (UCEI) for nine years, to unpack a counterintuitive story: Italian counter-terrorism has been remarkably effective at keeping bombs and mass-casualty plots away from the country's 25,000-strong Jewish community since October 7th, 2023. But that same success has pushed the danger elsewhere.

Di Segni explains how tightened security around synagogues and schools, achieved through close cooperation with police and government, has displaced the threat rather than eliminated it. Italian Jews increasingly face isolation and social ostracism, often viewed not as fellow Europeans but as stand-ins for Israeli government policy. The result is a community newly reliant on those willing to stand with them outside the walls of Jewish institutions - a quieter, harder-to-police threat than any bomb.

A conversation about what protection really means when the danger moves from the perimeter to everyday life.

Photo Credits: Waldemar Brandt on Unsplash

About this series

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Within the framework of the SENTINEL project, ICCT is proud to present a new podcast series with professionals working to directly monitor anti-Semitic extremism around Europe, as well as individuals who are involved in security provision for the Jewish communities across Europe. The first podcase episode saw Kacper Rekawek in discussion over these issues with Ophir Revach. In episode two Kacper is joined in conversation by Noemi di Segni, followed by Jean Yves Camus in episode three. Kacper speaks with Anne-Clementine Larroque in episode four, and the series concludes with Uljana Vlagyimirova speaking with Hans Jakob Schindler.