ICCT’s very first podcast series delves into how counter-terrorism has changed in the aftermath of the terrorist attacks on September 11th, 2001 — through conversations with practitioners, academics and policy-makers.

Marking the 20th anniversary of the September 11 attacks, this series explores crucial human rights, rule of law, and security dimensions of counter-terrorism as it evolved over the Global War on Terror.

This podcast was produced by Joseph Reid, Naledi Tilmann, Joana Cook, Anna-Maria Andreeva, Charlie van Mieghem, and Teo Kai Xiang.

Podcast episodes

In our premiere episode, we speak to Frank Straub, Director of the Center for Mass Violence Response Studies at the US National Police Foundation.

Twenty years ago, Frank was a first responder on the scene of the attacks in lower Manhattan. Looking back, we go through his experience of the day and his perspective on how counter-terrorism in policing changed after the attacks. Interviewing him is Dr. Joana Cook, an ICCT Senior Project Manager and Editor-in-Chief of the ICCT Journal. Read the transcript here.

In our second episode, we speak to Fiounnula Ní Aoláin, the UN Special Rapporteur on Human Rights & Counter-Terrorism.

Fiounnula will be sharing her views on critical human rights and global challenges relating to counter-terrorism, and how they have changed after the 9/11 attacks. Interviewing her is Tanya Mehra, a Senior Research Fellow and Programme Lead, Rule of Law Responses to Terrorism at ICCT. Read the transcript here.

In our third episode, we speak to Bruce Hoffman, Professor of Security Studies at Georgetown University and Senior Fellow for counter-terrorism and homeland security at the Council on Foreign Relations.

We will be examining how counter-terrorism has evolved over the last 45 years, the impacts of 9/11, and the future of the Global War on Terror. Interviewing him is Julie Coleman, a Senior Research Fellow and Programme Lead of the Preventing and Countering Violent Extremism (P/CVE) programme at ICCT. Read the transcript here.

In our fourth episode, we speak to Tom Parker, author of “Avoiding the Terrorist Trap: Why Respecting Human Rights is the Key to Defeating Terrorism”.

We will be exploring the different historical manifestations of counter-terrorism, how these patterns shifted after 9/11, and why its future is firmly grounded in human rights. Interviewing him is Alexander von Rosenbach , who at the time of this recording was ICCT’s Interim Director. Read the transcript here.

In our fifth episode, we speak to Ambassador Janet Alberda, who is currently serving as Ambassador of the Kingdom of the Netherlands to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

Amb. Alberda will be discussing the effects of counter-terrorism policy on international diplomacy, her experiences working in the Middle East after 9/11, and what obstacles the global community faces moving forwards. Interviewing her is Teun van Dongen, a Senior Research Fellow and Programme Lead, Current and Emerging Threats at ICCT. Read the transcript here.

In our sixth episode, we speak to Hani Shamsi, Director of the American Civil Liberties Union’s (ACLU) National Security Project.

We will be examining how civil liberties and human rights fit into the framework of national security, their intersections with counter-terrorism, as well as providing insight into how these elements have changed over the past twenty years. Interviewing her is Dr. Rumyana van Ark, a Research Fellow and Coordinator at ICCT. Read the transcript here.

In our seventh episode, we speak to Ambassador Roya Rahmani, Afghan diplomat, and the first woman to serve as the Afghan ambassador to the United States and Indonesia.

Amb. Rahmani will be discussing her experiences as a diplomat, her critical work promoting women's rights globally, and what the future holds for Afghanistan. Interviewing her is Dr. Joana Cook, a Senior Project Manager at ICCT, and Editor-in-Chief of the ICCT journal. Read the transcript here.

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